1 00:00:00,810 --> 00:00:02,866 Good morning , everyone . Welcome to 2 00:00:02,866 --> 00:00:05,088 the press conference in the Ministry of 3 00:00:05,088 --> 00:00:07,254 National Defense . We have here Deputy 4 00:00:07,254 --> 00:00:09,366 Prime Minister , Minister of National 5 00:00:09,366 --> 00:00:11,199 Defence Vodislav Kosiny Kaus and 6 00:00:11,199 --> 00:00:13,143 Secretary of Defense of the United 7 00:00:13,143 --> 00:00:16,159 States , Mr . Peter Hacket . Deputy 8 00:00:16,159 --> 00:00:18,215 Prime Minister , can you please take 9 00:00:18,215 --> 00:00:22,079 the floor . Good morning . 10 00:00:22,309 --> 00:00:24,531 Good morning , everyone . It is a great 11 00:00:24,531 --> 00:00:27,709 moment . It is a great moment for 12 00:00:27,709 --> 00:00:30,719 myself , for my wife . 13 00:00:31,770 --> 00:00:34,610 Together with whom we are hosting 14 00:00:34,610 --> 00:00:36,810 Secretary of Defense of the United 15 00:00:36,810 --> 00:00:38,699 States , together with his wife . 16 00:00:38,699 --> 00:00:41,229 Welcome very cordially . for 17 00:00:41,229 --> 00:00:44,880 choosing 18 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,540 Poland as the first venue of your first 19 00:00:47,540 --> 00:00:50,049 official bilateral visit , you decided 20 00:00:50,049 --> 00:00:53,139 to come to Poland . It is a testimony 21 00:00:53,139 --> 00:00:55,028 to our partnership . It is also a 22 00:00:55,028 --> 00:00:58,259 testimony to our friendship and shared 23 00:00:58,259 --> 00:01:01,220 strategy of security for the United 24 00:01:01,220 --> 00:01:03,276 States , for Poland , Europe and the 25 00:01:03,276 --> 00:01:06,580 whole world . It is our great duty . It 26 00:01:06,580 --> 00:01:09,699 is a great honor for myself to 27 00:01:09,699 --> 00:01:12,940 host Secretary Peter Heck 28 00:01:14,220 --> 00:01:16,442 to Poland today and talk about the most 29 00:01:16,442 --> 00:01:18,442 important challenges related to the 30 00:01:18,442 --> 00:01:20,720 security of Poland , the United States , 31 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,942 Europe , and the world . Thank you very 32 00:01:22,942 --> 00:01:25,220 much for a very good discussion . Well , 33 00:01:25,220 --> 00:01:27,480 first we had a , and then we had a 34 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,480 bilateral meeting with our , um , 35 00:01:31,489 --> 00:01:33,656 delegations to talk about our alliance 36 00:01:33,656 --> 00:01:36,529 and the North Atlantic Treaty alliance . 37 00:01:36,629 --> 00:01:38,851 Polish American alliance has never been 38 00:01:38,851 --> 00:01:40,962 as strong as it is today , and we can 39 00:01:40,962 --> 00:01:43,129 do everything possible to make it even 40 00:01:43,129 --> 00:01:45,240 stronger . Overnight and this is what 41 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,519 we agreed on that we will have a joint 42 00:01:47,519 --> 00:01:49,241 investment and shared security 43 00:01:49,241 --> 00:01:51,680 guarantees as well as increasing our 44 00:01:52,019 --> 00:01:55,260 capabilities . Poland is a country that 45 00:01:55,260 --> 00:01:58,239 understands threats that it can see it 46 00:01:58,239 --> 00:02:00,589 and we can sense it . We have our own 47 00:02:00,589 --> 00:02:03,919 history and we know how it 48 00:02:03,919 --> 00:02:07,470 happened that in our country , 49 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,630 in our beloved home , and the war was 50 00:02:11,630 --> 00:02:15,009 wage . We were deprived of our own 51 00:02:15,009 --> 00:02:17,460 independence for years . For years we 52 00:02:17,460 --> 00:02:20,940 didn't also have a self-determination 53 00:02:20,940 --> 00:02:22,979 capacity . When we restored it , we 54 00:02:22,979 --> 00:02:25,035 know how important security is , how 55 00:02:25,035 --> 00:02:27,899 important freedom is , and peace . The 56 00:02:27,899 --> 00:02:30,190 values that bring us together need 57 00:02:30,190 --> 00:02:33,520 strength . Freedom needs strength . The 58 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,509 peace also needs strength . Security 59 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,919 takes a lot of strength , and that 60 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,752 strength is not possible without 61 00:02:40,752 --> 00:02:42,808 spending , without the money that we 62 00:02:42,808 --> 00:02:44,808 have to spend on our own security , 63 00:02:44,808 --> 00:02:47,030 without increasing our capabilities and 64 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:49,086 investment in our armed forces , the 65 00:02:49,086 --> 00:02:51,141 alliance , and the society . We know 66 00:02:51,141 --> 00:02:53,030 this perfectly well , and this is 67 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:55,086 something that we definitely share . 68 00:02:55,086 --> 00:02:57,197 Thank you very much for that . Poland 69 00:02:57,197 --> 00:02:59,419 is an example of such a country , and . 70 00:02:59,419 --> 00:03:01,252 The Secretary of Defense gave an 71 00:03:01,252 --> 00:03:03,475 example of Poland in public in Brussels 72 00:03:03,475 --> 00:03:05,586 that Poland is actually an example of 73 00:03:05,586 --> 00:03:07,641 how to care for our own security and 74 00:03:07,641 --> 00:03:09,863 the airline security , because whatever 75 00:03:09,863 --> 00:03:12,086 we do , the protection of our borders , 76 00:03:12,086 --> 00:03:14,308 5% of defense spendings , modernization 77 00:03:14,308 --> 00:03:16,475 and transformation of the Polish armed 78 00:03:16,475 --> 00:03:18,586 forces , the acquisition of the state 79 00:03:18,586 --> 00:03:20,697 of the art equipment from a strategic 80 00:03:20,697 --> 00:03:22,863 partner in the area of defense , which 81 00:03:22,863 --> 00:03:24,975 is the United States , and this is an 82 00:03:24,975 --> 00:03:26,975 absolute priority for our country . 83 00:03:27,089 --> 00:03:29,960 Everyone in Poland absolutely 84 00:03:31,339 --> 00:03:33,506 accepts that and agrees with that . We 85 00:03:33,506 --> 00:03:35,617 want to thank our taxpayers thanks to 86 00:03:35,617 --> 00:03:37,728 whom we are able to execute the great 87 00:03:37,728 --> 00:03:39,617 plan of the transformation of the 88 00:03:39,617 --> 00:03:41,728 forces . Without them it would not be 89 00:03:41,728 --> 00:03:43,728 possible . We can do that thanks to 90 00:03:43,728 --> 00:03:43,690 them because they contribute to this , 91 00:03:43,850 --> 00:03:46,017 and they understand this . Poland is a 92 00:03:46,017 --> 00:03:48,128 country that understands that greater 93 00:03:48,128 --> 00:03:50,072 defense spendings are definitely . 94 00:03:50,684 --> 00:03:53,645 Europe must spend more . This is the 95 00:03:53,645 --> 00:03:56,365 message with which Secretary of Defense 96 00:03:56,365 --> 00:03:58,524 came to the meeting of defense 97 00:03:58,524 --> 00:04:01,244 ministers of the alliance . We must 98 00:04:01,244 --> 00:04:03,854 spend more to protect our territory 99 00:04:03,854 --> 00:04:06,404 better , and the United States wants to 100 00:04:06,404 --> 00:04:08,645 cooperate , and the United States will 101 00:04:08,645 --> 00:04:10,884 do everything possible to be together 102 00:04:10,884 --> 00:04:14,320 for the alliance to be . Stronger and 103 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,098 stronger , but Europe also must 104 00:04:16,098 --> 00:04:17,987 demonstrate its contribution . We 105 00:04:17,987 --> 00:04:20,209 understand this perfectly well , and we 106 00:04:20,209 --> 00:04:22,264 are true to our commitments . We are 107 00:04:22,264 --> 00:04:24,264 true to our allied obligations . We 108 00:04:24,264 --> 00:04:26,042 were together in Iraq . We were 109 00:04:26,042 --> 00:04:28,098 together in Afghanistan . We were in 110 00:04:28,098 --> 00:04:30,899 different anti-terror missions . After 111 00:04:32,119 --> 00:04:34,119 the terrorist attacks in the United 112 00:04:34,119 --> 00:04:36,341 States , we were the first country that 113 00:04:36,341 --> 00:04:38,397 was ready to support the US , and we 114 00:04:38,397 --> 00:04:40,619 continue to do so . We will support the 115 00:04:40,619 --> 00:04:42,786 United States . We are a steadfast and 116 00:04:42,786 --> 00:04:42,720 loyal ally , and thank you very much 117 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,942 for the presence of the American troops 118 00:04:44,942 --> 00:04:47,109 in Poland . It is incredibly important 119 00:04:47,109 --> 00:04:49,276 for us , it is crucial and it gives us 120 00:04:49,276 --> 00:04:51,164 a sense of security and it really 121 00:04:51,164 --> 00:04:53,387 provides tangible security . We want to 122 00:04:53,387 --> 00:04:55,850 thank every single American servicemen 123 00:04:55,850 --> 00:04:58,072 and servicewomen training together with 124 00:04:58,072 --> 00:05:00,183 Polish troops for giving us strengths 125 00:05:00,183 --> 00:05:03,160 and capabilities and our power . You 126 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,609 are very welcome here . Come to us . 127 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,519 This is your home , and you will always 128 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:11,575 be treated like that because it is a 129 00:05:11,575 --> 00:05:13,519 great privilege for us and a great 130 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:15,679 pleasure . I am also very happy with 131 00:05:15,679 --> 00:05:17,839 our conversation about the future 132 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,959 further spending that we want to make 133 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:22,380 in the United States for acquisitions , 134 00:05:22,679 --> 00:05:25,012 we will definitely continue that effort . 135 00:05:25,012 --> 00:05:27,235 We also want to develop the cooperation 136 00:05:27,235 --> 00:05:29,235 of our defense industries . We also 137 00:05:29,235 --> 00:05:31,290 talked about that investment , joint 138 00:05:31,290 --> 00:05:33,457 venture , Polish American investment . 139 00:05:33,457 --> 00:05:35,809 To increase their capabilities for our 140 00:05:35,809 --> 00:05:38,489 production , especially the capacity to 141 00:05:38,489 --> 00:05:41,010 produce munitions and the capacity for 142 00:05:41,010 --> 00:05:42,788 armament production that is not 143 00:05:42,788 --> 00:05:45,010 sufficient in Europe . Europe must wake 144 00:05:45,010 --> 00:05:47,359 up . Europe must invest in the defense 145 00:05:47,359 --> 00:05:49,415 industry and we want to create joint 146 00:05:49,415 --> 00:05:51,303 venture companies with the United 147 00:05:51,303 --> 00:05:53,026 States to be able to use these 148 00:05:53,026 --> 00:05:55,040 resources better . Poland can and . 149 00:05:55,100 --> 00:05:58,839 Should be a hub of infrastructure 150 00:05:58,929 --> 00:06:01,989 for maintenance for the economy and 151 00:06:01,989 --> 00:06:04,100 businesses of the United States . Our 152 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:07,209 strategy is to be like a transatlantic 153 00:06:07,209 --> 00:06:09,570 bond bringing the United States and 154 00:06:09,570 --> 00:06:11,570 Europe together , because Poland is 155 00:06:11,570 --> 00:06:13,681 best prepared to do that , and Poland 156 00:06:13,681 --> 00:06:15,792 understands best all the actions that 157 00:06:15,792 --> 00:06:17,792 are undertaken by the United States 158 00:06:17,792 --> 00:06:19,792 today . And I think that Poland has 159 00:06:19,792 --> 00:06:21,848 very good awareness of the situation 160 00:06:21,848 --> 00:06:23,514 after this conversation . I'm 161 00:06:23,514 --> 00:06:25,514 absolutely convinced that it is the 162 00:06:25,514 --> 00:06:27,626 case . We want it to be a service hub 163 00:06:27,626 --> 00:06:29,570 that will be used for the American 164 00:06:29,570 --> 00:06:31,737 equipment used by our allies along the 165 00:06:31,737 --> 00:06:33,959 eastern border of NATO . We also talked 166 00:06:33,959 --> 00:06:36,181 about illegal migration that we stop at 167 00:06:36,181 --> 00:06:38,070 the Polish Belarusian border . We 168 00:06:38,070 --> 00:06:40,237 talked about the challenges the United 169 00:06:40,237 --> 00:06:42,403 States is also facing to this extent . 170 00:06:42,403 --> 00:06:44,514 And very good information that I want 171 00:06:44,514 --> 00:06:46,737 to share with you . You know that there 172 00:06:46,737 --> 00:06:46,450 is the review of different spendings in 173 00:06:46,450 --> 00:06:49,299 the United States , that there are 174 00:06:49,299 --> 00:06:51,355 different executive orders that were 175 00:06:51,355 --> 00:06:54,260 issued by President Trump and the 176 00:06:54,260 --> 00:06:56,579 objective is to review the 177 00:06:56,579 --> 00:06:58,635 justification of the spendings , but 178 00:06:58,635 --> 00:07:01,690 there is something as foreign military . 179 00:07:01,954 --> 00:07:04,535 I'm saying this is the fund that is 180 00:07:04,535 --> 00:07:06,755 used to modernize , for example , the 181 00:07:06,755 --> 00:07:08,755 Polish armed forces , and we use it 182 00:07:08,755 --> 00:07:12,385 billions of dollars and that executive 183 00:07:12,385 --> 00:07:15,714 order of President Trump about freezing 184 00:07:15,714 --> 00:07:19,065 the funding of different programs to 185 00:07:19,065 --> 00:07:20,509 support modernization and 186 00:07:20,509 --> 00:07:22,621 transformation , they do not apply to 187 00:07:22,621 --> 00:07:24,343 Poland . Thank you very much , 188 00:07:24,343 --> 00:07:26,065 Secretary of Defence , for the 189 00:07:26,065 --> 00:07:28,176 decisions about the data , for a very 190 00:07:28,176 --> 00:07:30,343 clear presentation of the case . It is 191 00:07:30,343 --> 00:07:32,454 a great example , and we are ironclad 192 00:07:32,454 --> 00:07:35,190 partners , we are friends for better 193 00:07:35,190 --> 00:07:37,134 and for worse , for good times and 194 00:07:37,134 --> 00:07:39,190 worse times , we are together . With 195 00:07:39,190 --> 00:07:41,134 each other , Poland and the United 196 00:07:41,134 --> 00:07:43,246 States . The United States and Poland 197 00:07:43,246 --> 00:07:45,301 are true and loyal friends , and our 198 00:07:45,301 --> 00:07:47,357 cooperation will be even at a higher 199 00:07:47,357 --> 00:07:51,125 level . Thank you Pat Hexet , 200 00:07:51,325 --> 00:07:53,492 the Secretary of Defense of the United 201 00:07:53,492 --> 00:07:56,950 States . Mr . Deputy Prime Minister , 202 00:07:56,959 --> 00:07:59,309 thank you for your incredibly strong 203 00:07:59,309 --> 00:08:02,309 words which I echo and concur 204 00:08:02,829 --> 00:08:05,260 completely . Our our friendship , our 205 00:08:05,260 --> 00:08:09,230 bond is ironclad , and we came 206 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:12,170 here specifically to reinforce that . I 207 00:08:12,170 --> 00:08:14,337 also want to thank your wife for being 208 00:08:14,337 --> 00:08:16,392 a part of this as well today in your 209 00:08:16,392 --> 00:08:18,503 entire delegation . The warmth of the 210 00:08:18,503 --> 00:08:21,290 Polish people is very , very clear . It 211 00:08:21,290 --> 00:08:23,730 is a privilege to be here and I do want 212 00:08:23,730 --> 00:08:25,640 to emphasize that it's quite 213 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,130 intentional that our first European 214 00:08:29,130 --> 00:08:32,809 bilateral is right here in Poland . The 215 00:08:32,809 --> 00:08:35,031 symbolism is not lost . In fact , it is 216 00:08:35,031 --> 00:08:38,530 intentional . We see Poland as the 217 00:08:38,530 --> 00:08:41,460 model ally on the continent , willing 218 00:08:41,460 --> 00:08:44,359 to invest not just in their defense , 219 00:08:44,729 --> 00:08:46,729 but in our shared defense and the 220 00:08:46,729 --> 00:08:50,000 defense of the continent . Our 221 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 relationship is strong and growing 222 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,919 stronger every day . Poland , a 223 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:57,840 strategic frontline partner on NATO's 224 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,070 eastern flank . Poland , a staunch 225 00:09:01,609 --> 00:09:05,270 US ally . Poland , as I said , 226 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,000 model ally , not only in words . 227 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,369 Words are cheap , but indeed and in 228 00:09:13,369 --> 00:09:16,989 actions . America , excuse me , Poland 229 00:09:16,989 --> 00:09:20,130 leads by example . On a lot of things , 230 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,940 including defense spending , building 231 00:09:22,940 --> 00:09:25,119 up Polish military readiness . 232 00:09:25,140 --> 00:09:27,979 Yesterday in Brussels , we both talked 233 00:09:27,979 --> 00:09:31,010 a lot about spending and the need for 234 00:09:31,229 --> 00:09:34,929 hard power . Diplomacy is important . 235 00:09:35,359 --> 00:09:37,890 Talk is important . Negotiations are 236 00:09:37,890 --> 00:09:41,219 important , but ultimately beans and 237 00:09:41,219 --> 00:09:44,059 bullets and tanks and helicopters and 238 00:09:44,059 --> 00:09:47,330 hard power still matters . Poland 239 00:09:47,330 --> 00:09:49,289 understands that , and so do we . 240 00:09:49,659 --> 00:09:52,340 They're exceeding NATO burden sharing 241 00:09:52,340 --> 00:09:54,580 commitments . And we're looking for 242 00:09:54,580 --> 00:09:56,358 even more ways to partner . You 243 00:09:56,358 --> 00:09:58,979 mentioned joint ventures , strategic 244 00:09:58,979 --> 00:10:02,059 partnerships . We are open and and look 245 00:10:02,059 --> 00:10:04,299 forward to further solidifying how we 246 00:10:04,299 --> 00:10:07,500 can work together on as it pertains to 247 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:10,750 our defense industrial bases . We want 248 00:10:10,750 --> 00:10:12,639 to achieve peace through strength 249 00:10:12,639 --> 00:10:16,169 together . Deterrents that defense 250 00:10:16,169 --> 00:10:19,159 industrial base , that's Apaches , 251 00:10:19,570 --> 00:10:23,130 F-35s , Highmars , Patriots , you name 252 00:10:23,130 --> 00:10:25,599 it , the more you have , the stronger 253 00:10:25,599 --> 00:10:27,821 we are . The more we can cooperate with 254 00:10:27,821 --> 00:10:29,988 those systems , the more interoperable 255 00:10:29,988 --> 00:10:33,679 our capabilities are , the better . Uh , 256 00:10:33,770 --> 00:10:36,250 I also want to thank you , uh , and the 257 00:10:36,250 --> 00:10:39,169 Polish people for the outstanding 258 00:10:39,169 --> 00:10:41,391 support of our forces that are deployed 259 00:10:41,391 --> 00:10:44,369 here . Uh , we have over 8000 American 260 00:10:44,369 --> 00:10:47,330 troops in Poland . I had a chance to 261 00:10:47,330 --> 00:10:49,552 spend the morning with some of those US 262 00:10:49,552 --> 00:10:51,849 troops . Uh , we ran the streets of 263 00:10:51,849 --> 00:10:54,169 Warsaw this morning in the , in the 264 00:10:54,169 --> 00:10:56,225 snow . I'm from Minnesota , so I was 265 00:10:56,225 --> 00:10:59,760 used to it . It was about 25 to 266 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,409 30 US soldiers and Marines . I had a 267 00:11:02,409 --> 00:11:04,631 chance to talk to them while we ran and 268 00:11:04,631 --> 00:11:06,742 did push-ups , and I asked them about 269 00:11:06,742 --> 00:11:08,853 their experience here in Poland , and 270 00:11:08,853 --> 00:11:11,076 some work directly with troops , others 271 00:11:11,076 --> 00:11:13,187 work in military sales , some work in 272 00:11:13,187 --> 00:11:15,940 POW and MIA remains recovery still . 273 00:11:15,950 --> 00:11:19,880 Each one of them had nothing but 274 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,809 gushing compliments for the Polish 275 00:11:22,809 --> 00:11:25,700 people . For the Polish military , for 276 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:28,033 the amount of support that they receive , 277 00:11:28,033 --> 00:11:29,978 for the true partnership , for the 278 00:11:29,978 --> 00:11:33,260 eagerness with which Polish troops work 279 00:11:33,260 --> 00:11:36,900 alongside American troops , we've seen 280 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:39,539 plenty of examples across the globe as 281 00:11:39,539 --> 00:11:41,650 the United States of America or where 282 00:11:41,650 --> 00:11:44,179 you work with allies who sometimes you 283 00:11:44,179 --> 00:11:47,159 wish wanted it just as much as we did . 284 00:11:48,270 --> 00:11:50,429 That's not a problem we have with 285 00:11:50,429 --> 00:11:52,651 Polish troops over here in Poland , and 286 00:11:52,651 --> 00:11:54,873 we thank you and we thank your military 287 00:11:54,873 --> 00:11:57,040 for the immense amount of support they 288 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,669 provide to ours . We also investments 289 00:11:59,669 --> 00:12:03,010 by Poland makes it easier for us to be 290 00:12:03,010 --> 00:12:05,909 here as well . Generous contributions 291 00:12:05,909 --> 00:12:08,349 from the Polish treasury for 292 00:12:08,349 --> 00:12:10,469 infrastructure and logistics support 293 00:12:10,469 --> 00:12:14,150 for our troops to be here reduces the 294 00:12:14,150 --> 00:12:16,390 US taxpayer burden . I know that's 295 00:12:16,390 --> 00:12:18,501 something that President Trump worked 296 00:12:18,501 --> 00:12:20,630 with Poland on his 1st 4 years in 297 00:12:20,630 --> 00:12:22,686 office . We will continue to do that 298 00:12:22,686 --> 00:12:25,809 together as well . The level of 299 00:12:25,809 --> 00:12:28,289 partnership just to underscore here is 300 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:31,520 unmatched in Europe . The common bond 301 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,770 between our forces is unlike others in 302 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:36,609 Europe . We have a shared warrior ethos 303 00:12:36,609 --> 00:12:38,720 which we talked about , something I'm 304 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,665 emphasizing , we're emphasizing at 305 00:12:40,665 --> 00:12:43,119 Donald Trump's Department of Defense . 306 00:12:44,119 --> 00:12:47,030 We're ready . We're lethal . We're 307 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:49,141 capable , and we want to reinvest the 308 00:12:49,141 --> 00:12:51,363 warrior spirit . We want to rebuild our 309 00:12:51,363 --> 00:12:53,530 military and re-establish deterrence . 310 00:12:53,630 --> 00:12:56,179 I heard the exact same things from you 311 00:12:56,179 --> 00:12:57,957 and from your leadership in our 312 00:12:57,957 --> 00:13:00,789 bilateral meeting , which is incredibly 313 00:13:00,789 --> 00:13:04,500 encouraging . No truer friend . No 314 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:08,140 tougher foe than the Polish soldier . 315 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,510 As I mentioned , we saw it in Iraq , we 316 00:13:11,510 --> 00:13:14,260 saw it in Afghanistan , and it goes all 317 00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:16,427 the way back to World War II in Market 318 00:13:16,427 --> 00:13:18,760 Garden . The Polish military has stood 319 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,650 alongside America and we stand 320 00:13:20,650 --> 00:13:24,270 alongside you . So thank you again for 321 00:13:24,270 --> 00:13:26,669 that robust partnership , uh , for 322 00:13:26,669 --> 00:13:28,613 being a friend around the table of 323 00:13:28,613 --> 00:13:30,669 nations . Yes , at NATO , we are all 324 00:13:30,669 --> 00:13:32,725 friends , but sometimes you look out 325 00:13:32,725 --> 00:13:34,891 and see those that say we are with you 326 00:13:35,109 --> 00:13:37,220 when there are tough conversations to 327 00:13:37,220 --> 00:13:39,450 be had . And you were , and I know you 328 00:13:39,450 --> 00:13:41,506 will be . We look forward to leading 329 00:13:41,506 --> 00:13:43,561 those conversations and ensuring our 330 00:13:43,561 --> 00:13:45,929 deeds match our words and your 331 00:13:45,929 --> 00:13:48,650 friendship is incredibly valued on 332 00:13:48,650 --> 00:13:50,761 behalf of the American people . Thank 333 00:13:50,761 --> 00:13:52,983 you for welcoming us . It's an honor to 334 00:13:52,983 --> 00:13:54,539 be here , sir . Thank you . 335 00:13:58,289 --> 00:14:01,539 Now we have time for 4 short questions . 336 00:14:01,609 --> 00:14:03,580 The first question . just recently 337 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:04,747 you've ruled out the 338 00:14:04,747 --> 00:14:11,349 possibility 339 00:14:11,349 --> 00:14:15,210 of restoring Ukrainian pre-2014 borders , 340 00:14:15,330 --> 00:14:17,274 but do you believe that there is a 341 00:14:17,274 --> 00:14:20,849 possibility to restore the border as it 342 00:14:20,849 --> 00:14:23,450 was before the full scale invasion back 343 00:14:23,450 --> 00:14:26,890 in February 2022 . Thank you . Thank 344 00:14:26,890 --> 00:14:29,130 you for the question , sir . I think 345 00:14:29,130 --> 00:14:32,109 anything is possible . I , as the 346 00:14:32,109 --> 00:14:34,276 Secretary of Defense , have a specific 347 00:14:34,276 --> 00:14:36,429 lane of the portfolio of what America 348 00:14:36,429 --> 00:14:38,040 is representing inside these 349 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,020 negotiations . So my job today 350 00:14:41,349 --> 00:14:44,469 and in Brussels was to introduce 351 00:14:44,469 --> 00:14:46,549 realism to the conversation . The 352 00:14:46,549 --> 00:14:49,950 reality that returning to 2014 as 353 00:14:49,950 --> 00:14:51,728 borders as part of a negotiated 354 00:14:51,728 --> 00:14:54,609 settlement is unlikely . The reality of 355 00:14:54,609 --> 00:14:57,929 US troops in Ukraine is unlikely . The 356 00:14:57,929 --> 00:15:01,169 reality of Ukraine membership in NATO 357 00:15:01,169 --> 00:15:04,090 as a part of a negotiated settlement is 358 00:15:04,090 --> 00:15:06,257 unlikely , and I stand by the comments 359 00:15:06,257 --> 00:15:08,312 that I made on that first day in the 360 00:15:08,312 --> 00:15:10,780 Ukraine contact group . And that's for 361 00:15:10,780 --> 00:15:12,947 all the press out there it's difficult 362 00:15:12,947 --> 00:15:15,113 for them to understand that . We stand 363 00:15:15,113 --> 00:15:17,320 by the statements we made in reality 364 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,520 about the status of US forces or NATO 365 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,631 Ukraine's involvement in NATO and the 366 00:15:22,631 --> 00:15:25,359 unlikely nature of that . That said , I 367 00:15:25,359 --> 00:15:27,960 would never put constraints around what 368 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,904 the President of the United States 369 00:15:29,904 --> 00:15:32,071 would be willing to negotiate with the 370 00:15:32,071 --> 00:15:34,127 sovereign leaders of both Russia and 371 00:15:34,127 --> 00:15:37,510 Ukraine . I'm not here to put a left 372 00:15:37,510 --> 00:15:39,677 and right limit on those discussions . 373 00:15:39,830 --> 00:15:41,552 We've been here just simply to 374 00:15:41,552 --> 00:15:44,150 introduce realism into the expectations 375 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:46,950 of our NATO allies to incentivize the 376 00:15:46,950 --> 00:15:49,061 opportunity for that negotiation . So 377 00:15:49,061 --> 00:15:51,394 what those borders ultimately look like , 378 00:15:51,394 --> 00:15:53,630 sir , remains to be seen , and I think 379 00:15:53,630 --> 00:15:55,852 is part of the discussion that would be 380 00:15:55,852 --> 00:15:59,450 had between our president . Zelinsky , 381 00:15:59,659 --> 00:16:02,500 Putin , and likely Europe's involvement 382 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:04,556 in those discussions as well . Thank 383 00:16:04,556 --> 00:16:05,556 you , sir . 384 00:16:08,919 --> 00:16:11,559 Mr . Secretary , um , are US troops in 385 00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:14,169 Ukraine on the table ? Vice President 386 00:16:14,169 --> 00:16:17,299 Vance says it is , and Panne Premier it . 387 00:16:17,530 --> 00:16:20,119 Under what condition would Poland send 388 00:16:20,119 --> 00:16:22,119 forces to Ukraine as part of a 389 00:16:22,119 --> 00:16:25,859 peacekeeping mission ? Well , the 390 00:16:25,859 --> 00:16:28,739 president has said multiple times 391 00:16:28,739 --> 00:16:30,961 inside his framework for discussions of 392 00:16:30,961 --> 00:16:33,239 this , and I just want to lay out that . 393 00:16:33,239 --> 00:16:35,295 These are not comments or statements 394 00:16:35,295 --> 00:16:37,517 that I make in a vacuum or make without 395 00:16:37,517 --> 00:16:39,683 direct consultation with our team . So 396 00:16:39,919 --> 00:16:41,919 President Trump's national security 397 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:44,479 team , from Mike Waltz to the Vice 398 00:16:44,479 --> 00:16:46,880 President to Secretary of State Marco 399 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,936 Rubio , we're all on the same page , 400 00:16:48,936 --> 00:16:50,880 and our job is to ensure that our 401 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,991 commander in chief , the President of 402 00:16:52,991 --> 00:16:54,824 the United States , has the full 403 00:16:54,824 --> 00:16:57,200 spectrum of options to bring this 404 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,311 conflict , to bring the killing to an 405 00:16:59,311 --> 00:17:02,210 end . To an end and my message 406 00:17:02,580 --> 00:17:06,500 to the Ukraine contact group was , I do 407 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:08,222 not believe as a part of those 408 00:17:08,222 --> 00:17:10,389 negotiations that US troops will be on 409 00:17:10,389 --> 00:17:13,479 the ground . You can say that , and I 410 00:17:13,479 --> 00:17:15,368 believe that to be true . I don't 411 00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:17,590 believe that's what President Trump has 412 00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:19,812 said . That is what he has emphasized , 413 00:17:19,812 --> 00:17:21,979 that this is for Europeans to resolve 414 00:17:21,979 --> 00:17:24,780 alongside Ukraine and Russia and that 415 00:17:24,780 --> 00:17:26,724 US boots will not be on the ground 416 00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:29,890 again . Negotiations happen . The 417 00:17:29,890 --> 00:17:31,779 president has latitude , and what 418 00:17:31,779 --> 00:17:34,010 happens in those negotiations is his 419 00:17:34,010 --> 00:17:36,177 prerogative because he is the American 420 00:17:36,177 --> 00:17:38,232 people's representative on the world 421 00:17:38,232 --> 00:17:40,288 stage . There's no daylight in those 422 00:17:40,288 --> 00:17:42,288 conversations . There's no daylight 423 00:17:42,288 --> 00:17:44,510 between myself and the vice president . 424 00:17:44,510 --> 00:17:46,739 We are collective advocates on behalf 425 00:17:46,739 --> 00:17:49,420 of the president . He reserves the 426 00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:52,060 right to have any option as he 427 00:17:52,060 --> 00:17:55,140 discusses troops and partnerships and 428 00:17:55,140 --> 00:17:57,380 investment opportunities and front line 429 00:17:57,380 --> 00:17:59,491 limits . Those are all what President 430 00:17:59,491 --> 00:18:01,158 Trump will negotiate with his 431 00:18:01,158 --> 00:18:02,158 counterparts . 432 00:18:05,859 --> 00:18:07,859 negotiations just started . I would 433 00:18:07,859 --> 00:18:09,970 like to thank for this question . The 434 00:18:09,970 --> 00:18:12,339 negotiation which President Trump 435 00:18:12,339 --> 00:18:14,395 cherish is just the first step we've 436 00:18:14,395 --> 00:18:16,506 talked about it . Well , some thought 437 00:18:16,506 --> 00:18:18,672 that this is the finale , that this is 438 00:18:18,672 --> 00:18:21,739 the end . uh , well , it just , it was 439 00:18:21,739 --> 00:18:24,030 just launched and it is worthwhile . 440 00:18:25,670 --> 00:18:28,270 Not only in Poland but also in Ukraine 441 00:18:28,270 --> 00:18:30,469 across the world to realize and what 442 00:18:30,469 --> 00:18:33,339 was said by Pete Hacket . What will be 443 00:18:33,339 --> 00:18:37,180 the finale ? It is to 444 00:18:37,180 --> 00:18:40,280 be seen . It is in front of us . What 445 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,447 is for sure , we need to be strong and 446 00:18:42,447 --> 00:18:44,613 united as allies , and this is what we 447 00:18:44,613 --> 00:18:46,558 have between Poland and the United 448 00:18:46,558 --> 00:18:48,780 States . Poland has been doing a lot to 449 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:51,002 support Ukraine . We've been doing that 450 00:18:51,002 --> 00:18:53,224 from the first day . Without the Polish 451 00:18:53,224 --> 00:18:55,447 participation , we could not be able to 452 00:18:56,060 --> 00:18:59,074 send assistance to Ukraine . 95% . of 453 00:18:59,324 --> 00:19:01,435 hardware humanitarian assistance goes 454 00:19:01,435 --> 00:19:03,602 through the logistical hub in Poland , 455 00:19:03,602 --> 00:19:05,935 and this has been happening for 3 years . 456 00:19:05,935 --> 00:19:07,768 We've been securing this . We've 457 00:19:07,768 --> 00:19:09,685 involved our forces which are 458 00:19:09,685 --> 00:19:11,907 protecting this process . We would like 459 00:19:11,907 --> 00:19:13,907 to thank our allies from the US and 460 00:19:13,907 --> 00:19:15,574 other countries that they are 461 00:19:15,574 --> 00:19:17,629 supporting this transfer process and 462 00:19:17,629 --> 00:19:19,629 protection process of the donations 463 00:19:19,629 --> 00:19:21,907 which have been transferred to Ukraine , 464 00:19:21,907 --> 00:19:23,963 and this is the role for Poland . Of 465 00:19:23,963 --> 00:19:27,719 the logistical support in many issues 466 00:19:28,459 --> 00:19:31,020 rather than sending our troops to 467 00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:33,729 Ukraine , what we can do for sure , and 468 00:19:33,729 --> 00:19:35,840 I think we're going to do it together 469 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,260 soon to send our joint venture 470 00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:42,939 companies or joint venture partnerships 471 00:19:42,939 --> 00:19:46,619 to Ukraine . The companies 472 00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:50,439 investing in the defense industry also 473 00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:53,760 using various capabilities to elevate 474 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,816 the level of security of Ukraine and 475 00:19:55,816 --> 00:19:57,982 the eastern flank of NATO , developing 476 00:19:57,982 --> 00:19:59,982 these possibilities if we invest in 477 00:19:59,982 --> 00:20:02,439 Ukraine . The United States , Europe , 478 00:20:02,449 --> 00:20:04,616 and Poland . This is a great guarantee 479 00:20:04,616 --> 00:20:07,400 of security . I think it is also in the 480 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,709 strategy that the United States is 481 00:20:09,709 --> 00:20:11,820 presenting broadly , and this is also 482 00:20:11,820 --> 00:20:14,153 going to be a subject of the discussion . 483 00:20:14,153 --> 00:20:16,790 So our role as a logistical support 484 00:20:17,239 --> 00:20:20,290 that we've been doing , it is very 485 00:20:20,780 --> 00:20:23,002 important . Without that , we could not 486 00:20:23,002 --> 00:20:25,169 support fighting Ukraine and the peace 487 00:20:25,169 --> 00:20:27,369 in Ukraine . Thank you very much . The 488 00:20:27,369 --> 00:20:29,425 next question . There will be 2 more 489 00:20:29,425 --> 00:20:32,089 questions . Mr . Secretary , 490 00:20:33,619 --> 00:20:36,469 would the US consider lowering troops 491 00:20:36,469 --> 00:20:39,839 number in Eastern Europe as a part of a 492 00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:42,061 deal with Russia , or would it consider 493 00:20:43,069 --> 00:20:45,339 giving up its permanent military 494 00:20:45,339 --> 00:20:48,689 presence in Poland ? I will state 495 00:20:48,939 --> 00:20:50,939 definitively , as I did in Brussels 496 00:20:50,939 --> 00:20:53,050 that America is committed to the NATO 497 00:20:53,050 --> 00:20:56,089 alliance . Our message has been 498 00:20:56,089 --> 00:20:59,089 and as we discussed , we believe heard 499 00:20:59,089 --> 00:21:02,260 loud and clear that member countries in 500 00:21:02,260 --> 00:21:05,260 NATO need to spend more , need to 501 00:21:05,260 --> 00:21:07,482 invest more , need to have more skin in 502 00:21:07,482 --> 00:21:09,704 the game for their collective defense . 503 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,119 That is not just a suggestion from the 504 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,310 United States of America . That is a 505 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:17,319 direct request which we will follow up 506 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,930 on as a reflection of their desire and 507 00:21:19,930 --> 00:21:22,400 commitment to actually defend their own 508 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,949 backyard . That's a serious aspect of 509 00:21:25,949 --> 00:21:28,400 NATO becoming a serious alliance in the 510 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,567 future , as I mentioned , you can have 511 00:21:30,567 --> 00:21:33,160 as many flags as you want , but if you 512 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,271 don't have hard power , you're not an 513 00:21:35,271 --> 00:21:37,699 actual alliance . And unfortunately our 514 00:21:37,699 --> 00:21:40,060 adversaries look at that and they judge 515 00:21:40,060 --> 00:21:42,729 accordingly . Right now on the 516 00:21:42,729 --> 00:21:44,785 continent , the American presence is 517 00:21:44,785 --> 00:21:46,785 robust , and it has been , and that 518 00:21:46,785 --> 00:21:49,007 partnership is real and important , and 519 00:21:49,007 --> 00:21:51,173 the troops that we have here in Poland 520 00:21:51,173 --> 00:21:52,840 is an investment in that is a 521 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,062 recognition of that . And frankly , the 522 00:21:55,062 --> 00:21:57,800 invitation we receive here , if 523 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,633 anything , would make me want to 524 00:21:59,633 --> 00:22:01,890 welcome more troops to Poland as the 525 00:22:01,890 --> 00:22:03,890 Secretary of Defense . That's not a 526 00:22:03,890 --> 00:22:05,946 policy statement . That's just how I 527 00:22:05,946 --> 00:22:08,030 feel . The welcome is warm . At the 528 00:22:08,030 --> 00:22:10,030 same time , our president is in the 529 00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:12,989 middle of negotiations , but he has 530 00:22:12,989 --> 00:22:15,790 recognized , as have I , that American 531 00:22:15,790 --> 00:22:17,957 presence on the continent is important 532 00:22:18,069 --> 00:22:20,180 to deter Vladimir Putin and send that 533 00:22:20,180 --> 00:22:22,402 signal of solidarity . But I think it's 534 00:22:22,402 --> 00:22:24,719 really important what the deputy prime 535 00:22:24,719 --> 00:22:26,830 minister said . This is the beginning 536 00:22:26,830 --> 00:22:29,270 of negotiations . Nothing should be . 537 00:22:29,729 --> 00:22:32,479 I'm not here to set the terms of how my 538 00:22:32,479 --> 00:22:34,479 President of the United States will 539 00:22:34,479 --> 00:22:36,590 debate this . I'm here to give him my 540 00:22:36,590 --> 00:22:39,079 best military advice alongside him of 541 00:22:39,079 --> 00:22:41,190 what may or may not be most useful to 542 00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:43,246 reach the peaceful end state that we 543 00:22:43,246 --> 00:22:45,160 want . From my perspective , the 544 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,327 American troop levels on the continent 545 00:22:47,327 --> 00:22:49,560 are important . What happens 5 or 10 or 546 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,199 15 years from now is part of a larger 547 00:22:52,199 --> 00:22:54,229 discussion that reflects the threat 548 00:22:54,229 --> 00:22:57,979 level , America's posture , our needs 549 00:22:57,979 --> 00:22:59,979 around the globe . But most 550 00:22:59,979 --> 00:23:01,868 significantly , the capability of 551 00:23:01,868 --> 00:23:03,868 European countries to step up , and 552 00:23:03,868 --> 00:23:06,300 that's why our message is so stark to 553 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:09,099 our European allies . Now is the time 554 00:23:09,099 --> 00:23:11,540 to invest because you can't make an 555 00:23:11,540 --> 00:23:13,780 assumption that America's presence will 556 00:23:13,780 --> 00:23:16,859 last forever . America has to stare 557 00:23:16,859 --> 00:23:18,970 down a lot of threats to include , as 558 00:23:18,970 --> 00:23:21,248 I've mentioned , the communist Chinese . 559 00:23:21,248 --> 00:23:23,470 And if that's the case , then countries 560 00:23:23,470 --> 00:23:25,692 like Poland and others will continue to 561 00:23:25,692 --> 00:23:27,915 step up . But as of today , we are very 562 00:23:27,915 --> 00:23:30,060 proud of our partnership in Europe . 563 00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:31,310 Thank you . 564 00:23:34,329 --> 00:23:36,800 Comments and Fox News . These gentle , 565 00:23:36,969 --> 00:23:38,969 these questions are for both of you 566 00:23:38,969 --> 00:23:41,191 gentlemen . Do you believe the warnings 567 00:23:41,191 --> 00:23:43,869 from NATO allies that allowing Putin to 568 00:23:43,869 --> 00:23:46,109 keep Ukrainian territory will one day 569 00:23:46,109 --> 00:23:48,390 embolden him to launch future attacks 570 00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:50,750 or perhaps even invade the eastern 571 00:23:50,750 --> 00:23:52,910 flank of the NATO alliance ? Is this 572 00:23:52,910 --> 00:23:56,189 Yalta 2.0 or perhaps even Munich 2.0 ? 573 00:23:56,949 --> 00:24:00,160 Do you trust Vladimir Putin to live up 574 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,239 to any potential agreement ? And 575 00:24:02,239 --> 00:24:04,920 finally , in light of the Russian drone 576 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,142 attack on Chernobyl last night , should 577 00:24:07,142 --> 00:24:09,031 there be a ceasefire during these 578 00:24:09,031 --> 00:24:12,109 negotiations ? Thank you . Do you wanna 579 00:24:12,109 --> 00:24:15,630 go ? Go ahead , man . Well , what I 580 00:24:16,589 --> 00:24:19,819 What I believe is the strength which 581 00:24:19,819 --> 00:24:23,020 protects us from evil . On strong , we 582 00:24:23,020 --> 00:24:25,140 are able to defend ourselves from 583 00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:28,459 putting on the strength the terrors in 584 00:24:28,459 --> 00:24:31,859 our freedom . Our freedom will not be 585 00:24:31,859 --> 00:24:33,748 protected by beautiful words , by 586 00:24:33,748 --> 00:24:36,510 diplomatic meetings . Our freedom . 587 00:24:37,380 --> 00:24:41,020 Independence will be only defended and 588 00:24:41,020 --> 00:24:42,880 protected by the strength of our 589 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,520 alliance . This is the only thing that 590 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,520 can protect us , nothing else , and 591 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,742 we'll never have a calm day . There are 592 00:24:49,742 --> 00:24:51,853 no calm days across the world . There 593 00:24:51,853 --> 00:24:54,020 are only those who have slept the last 594 00:24:54,020 --> 00:24:57,380 30 years because they thought that they 595 00:24:57,380 --> 00:24:59,324 lived in the calm . The world will 596 00:24:59,324 --> 00:25:01,910 never be calm . The world will also 597 00:25:01,910 --> 00:25:04,234 always . Required from us activity . We 598 00:25:04,234 --> 00:25:06,584 always need to invest that we have to 599 00:25:07,035 --> 00:25:09,614 remember that Putin or other dictator 600 00:25:09,614 --> 00:25:11,725 may which can threaten our security . 601 00:25:11,725 --> 00:25:13,781 It never ends . This is what history 602 00:25:13,781 --> 00:25:15,892 teaches us , and I think it was a bit 603 00:25:15,892 --> 00:25:18,003 too good for us . For some it was too 604 00:25:18,003 --> 00:25:19,892 good . Maybe they didn't have the 605 00:25:19,892 --> 00:25:21,947 experiences that we've had in Poland 606 00:25:21,947 --> 00:25:24,170 that they just slept over this time and 607 00:25:24,170 --> 00:25:26,392 right now it's time to wake them up and 608 00:25:26,392 --> 00:25:28,614 the voice which came from Brussels from 609 00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:30,947 Pete Heet and Marsany was finally heard . 610 00:25:32,150 --> 00:25:34,550 We've been talking about . We've been 611 00:25:34,550 --> 00:25:37,910 showing that and we need it not to 612 00:25:37,910 --> 00:25:41,109 replace the American troops in Europe 613 00:25:41,109 --> 00:25:43,053 because without them the world and 614 00:25:43,053 --> 00:25:44,887 Europe will not be safe , but to 615 00:25:44,887 --> 00:25:46,998 maintain them , to keep them , Europe 616 00:25:46,998 --> 00:25:49,165 must show that they want it not in the 617 00:25:49,165 --> 00:25:51,053 words but in the deeds , and many 618 00:25:51,053 --> 00:25:53,109 European countries are already doing 619 00:25:53,109 --> 00:25:55,910 that , but many more wants needs to do 620 00:25:55,910 --> 00:25:58,189 it , and we want to do it , so there's 621 00:25:58,189 --> 00:26:00,349 no other security guarantee than your 622 00:26:00,349 --> 00:26:03,910 strength . I appreciate those words and 623 00:26:03,910 --> 00:26:06,670 I agree . First or second question on a 624 00:26:06,670 --> 00:26:08,829 ceasefire , I think the president has 625 00:26:08,829 --> 00:26:11,670 stated that that could be part of a 626 00:26:11,670 --> 00:26:13,781 good faith aspect of the beginning of 627 00:26:13,781 --> 00:26:15,837 negotiations , which the president's 628 00:26:15,837 --> 00:26:18,109 goal is to stop the killing , and the 629 00:26:18,109 --> 00:26:20,550 violence and the death . Part of doing 630 00:26:20,550 --> 00:26:22,494 that could be a ceasefire and that 631 00:26:22,494 --> 00:26:24,717 could be a welcome development . As far 632 00:26:24,717 --> 00:26:26,772 as Vladimir Putin being emboldened , 633 00:26:26,772 --> 00:26:28,883 he's he's going to declare victory no 634 00:26:28,883 --> 00:26:31,229 matter what . You can expect that no 635 00:26:31,229 --> 00:26:33,451 matter what the outcome is , thankfully 636 00:26:33,451 --> 00:26:35,599 the bravery of the Ukrainians and 637 00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:37,488 allies that came alongside them , 638 00:26:37,488 --> 00:26:39,655 especially early in the war , deterred 639 00:26:39,655 --> 00:26:41,488 and defeated Vladimir Putin from 640 00:26:41,488 --> 00:26:43,543 achieving what he wanted , which was 641 00:26:43,543 --> 00:26:45,766 all of Ukraine . So now you have a more 642 00:26:45,766 --> 00:26:47,766 defined front line , and whether he 643 00:26:47,766 --> 00:26:50,449 declares victory or not will be up to 644 00:26:50,449 --> 00:26:52,599 him , whether he's emboldened . 645 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,829 speaks exactly to what the Deputy Prime 646 00:26:55,829 --> 00:26:57,662 Minister talked about and NATO's 647 00:26:57,662 --> 00:26:59,709 willingness to step up . If NATO's 648 00:26:59,709 --> 00:27:02,310 response to this situation is to truly 649 00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:04,199 increase capabilities , truly in 650 00:27:06,790 --> 00:27:09,589 increase inputs and spending , to think 651 00:27:09,589 --> 00:27:11,700 more like Poland , to think more like 652 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:13,589 the Baltics who are closer to the 653 00:27:13,589 --> 00:27:15,811 threat and recognize the reality of the 654 00:27:15,811 --> 00:27:17,867 threat , then I don't think Vladimir 655 00:27:17,867 --> 00:27:19,700 Putin will be emboldened by this 656 00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:21,922 outcome . It will be a recognition that 657 00:27:21,922 --> 00:27:24,033 the collective ability of the West to 658 00:27:24,033 --> 00:27:26,033 deter him . Uh , was something that 659 00:27:26,033 --> 00:27:27,978 actually happened . Is there trust 660 00:27:27,978 --> 00:27:30,640 there ? No , I mean , you don't have to 661 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,280 operate under a position of trust in 662 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,670 order to negotiate a deal . But again , 663 00:27:35,959 --> 00:27:38,181 I'm the Secretary of Defense . It's not 664 00:27:38,181 --> 00:27:40,181 my job to read the mind of Vladimir 665 00:27:40,181 --> 00:27:42,403 Putin . President Trump will be the one 666 00:27:42,403 --> 00:27:44,570 at the table with Zelinsky and Putin . 667 00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:46,570 You don't have to trust somebody in 668 00:27:46,570 --> 00:27:49,250 order to negotiate with them . But as 669 00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:51,520 Ronald Reagan said , if you trust , you 670 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,687 don't trust , you need to verify . And 671 00:27:53,687 --> 00:27:55,464 so there will be a follow up in 672 00:27:55,464 --> 00:27:57,242 ensuring that whatever piece is 673 00:27:57,242 --> 00:27:59,329 negotiated is a lasting and enduring 674 00:27:59,329 --> 00:28:00,329 peace . 675 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,807 Thank you gentlemen Prime Minister and 676 00:28:06,807 --> 00:28:08,973 Secretary . We good ? Oh my goodness . 677 00:28:16,939 --> 00:28:18,060 That's one time . 678 00:28:22,910 --> 00:28:22,959 The